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郑振川眼神闪了几下。

和远芯的团队相处了这么久,他如果还搞不清楚远芯的野心和苏远山的眼光那他就白活几十岁了。

很显然,苏远山刚才沉思又叹息,自然是对目前的模式和未来的预期不满。

但郑振川又清楚,苏远山对于光刻机的国产化——最起码是技术的国产化是热心甚至执着的——否则他也不会在听说光刻机成功装机之后就马上奔了过来,还一个电话就把华晶的工程师请过来。

同样沉吟许久后,郑振川望向苏远山:“小苏,说说你对光刻机市场的预测吧。”

苏远山点点头,凝视着郑振川道:“从6、70年代,仙童,IBM自己捣鼓捣鼓就能搞出接触式光刻设备开始,到现在过去也不过是二三十年。这期间接触式光刻机被淘汰,技术不断革新,不断趋于复杂化。过去几年,GCA,Ultratech这些老牌的光刻机企业纷纷退出市场,尼康,佳能因为掌握镜头技术而崛起。”

“但从长远来看,我不看好它们两家。”

“为什么?”发问的是李明柳。

“因为他们是霓国企业,因为他们被他们的爹抛弃了,因为越是接近高端,便越是会行业细分。”苏远山看了李明柳一眼,轻声道。

“从半导体行业看,光刻机只是芯片生产线的一环,看似已经够细分了。但我们可以预见,今后光刻机会越来越复杂,越来越精密,越来越制约高端芯片。因此,它就一定会细分成零部件和技术这两个领域。”

苏远山顿了顿,试图绕开后世的EUV联盟来阐述“整合技术”的重要性。

“我们现在所说的光刻机技术,一方面是包含了零部件制造,一方面是零部件整合——在简单机械的环境下,我们有个认知,就是只要是机械,拆开就能仿制复原。如果不能,那就是零部件不达标。”

“现在不能说这种认知是错的,但随着机械结构越来越复杂,特别是加入了防拆卸技术之后呢?就算能拆开重装,要装多久?装好有能否投入市场?怕不怕别人告?——我们现在可是在积极申请加入关贸总协定呢。”

郑振川盯着苏远山,说道:“所以新的报告中,我们的目标是以现有的技术积累为基础,研究自主知识产权的整机设备。”

“没错,自主知识产权很重要。但是……现在我们都要依靠特别方式才能拿到某些核心的零部件。郑叔,你考虑过这点没有?”

郑振川沉默起来。

苏远山再次叹了口气:“我记得之前就说过,未来最顶尖的光刻机,一定是万国造的——你看星旗国就已经没有光刻机厂家了。但人家不在乎,因为人家能买到。”

郑振川望向他:“你的意思是,单凭我们光机所和远芯,是不可能的?”

“如果以目前的形式继续合作下去,最好的结果也是,我们因为无法获得来自‘万国’的零部件,而只能造出落后一到两代的产品。而在赢家通吃的规律下,落后就意味着成为炮灰。”

这时席小丁问道:“解决的办法呢?”

苏远山回头看了席小丁一眼,似笑非笑地道:“最简单的一个办法就是,去香江,利用香江自由港的优势,搞到需要的零部件,同时完成技术升级。”

此刻的香江远不像后世那样窝囊,早在8年前,四机部,七机部,还有外经贸部就已经“潜伏”进了香江,曲线救国,搞了华科,兴华,先科这些当时全国最先进的晶圆厂。

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